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Biff McLaurine's avatar

I thought that Israel dragged the US into this war, but now I believe we are using Israel as an excuse to try to wreck the BRICS alliance (or slow them way down). We are trying to starve China of oil and force them to buy from us, boosting the dollar.

David Ginsburg's avatar

Trump entered this war in Iran with a victory speech all prepared: Veni, vidi, vici. I came, I saw, I conquered. What Putin seems to have done, is alert POTUS to the reality that what he, Trump, has already gained on the swings in Iran, he’s rapidly losing on the roundabouts.

Hence, the narrative beginning to emerge from the White House: it’s all Netanyahu’s fault. He came to Washington. He misled us about Iran’s imminent threat, showed us some neat pictures of Donald standing to attention on Epstein’s island, then dumped us in the doo doo.

Stony's avatar

Thank you so much for your insights, articles and YT show apearances! Your are a true source of value in this fog of war!

Nakayama's avatar

Examples of some end-game conditions (1) Permanently lift sanctions and not again: will be done as sincerely as the US has done in the past. (2) US forces withdrawal from the Middle East: will not happen. Even if that does happen, the US forces will return in a year. (3) US forces out of Israel: will not happen. Even if that happens, the US aid to Israel will double or triple. (4) Palestinian State: may happen in name for a while. Then the IDF will come again.

Additional samples: (1) Netanyahu resigns and be subject to Israeli court investigation, then subject to a UN investigation for war crimes. (2) The US pays for Iran's war costs and the Palestinian State establishment and area reconstruction. (3) No US radars and airplanes in nations surrounding Israel, only ground troops. OK inside Israel. (4) Israel withdraws to 1946 border, out of West Bank and Gaza and Golan Heights. UN hold these areas. monitor reconstructions, and hold referendum. -- All the above likely pipedreams, although they might exist for a brief period.

Ask the US to pay war indemnity in gold? Seems to be a good idea but the US does not have that gold. However, one can always ask Israel to do the same, and the wealthy jewish donors should be able to do that.

The only US alternative left for the US will be using the nukes.

EagleHorse5's avatar

Dangerous Dialogue: How Trust in the U.S. Ends in Big Politics — Babakov and Johnson

International "National Unity Club"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpsuFrezQ9g