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Many of the Collective West's public masses will be told that 'villain Iran purposely bombed a big, beautiful hospital in victim Israel.' A video will accompany the report, showing a big gray cloud on one side of the hospital, with wails of shock from unseen Israelites off-camera.

These public masses have not been told by their mainstream media that Israel has been ruthlessly, purposely bombing hospitals and medical sites in Gaza for years.

Just as Larry wrote.

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Modern nations need high-quality citizens. When talking about the average quality, most of the Western nations have lost that quality. When talking about the quality of the policy makers and deep-staters, these people had long been bought off. John Ratcliff gets that post because of his loyalty to Trump, not to the truth. I will guess Kash Patel and Pam Bondi got their jobs for the same reasons. For Trump, what matters is "are you on my side or not?" very much the characteristics of the mob boss psychology. Yes, MAGA is split. American Conservatives need another "vehicle" in our hitch-hiking trek to a better nation.

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Speaking of the "average quality" of the citizens of Western nations, I'll say a word about U.S. citizens. I always like to point out that two of the greatest "prophets" in American history were Dwight D. Eisenhower and Edward R. Murrow.

On January 17, 1961, Eisenhower gave his "Farwell Address." In that address, he warned of the dangers of the "military industrial complex," that danger being how it can get out of control. We know that that has happened.

As regards the "quality," as you call it, of U.S citizens, on October 15, 1958, Edward R. Murrow gave a speech entitled, "Wires and Lights in a Box." He strongly warned that if American did not use television as a means of EDUCATING the people, we'd be up shit's creek. Well, he didn't say, "shit's creek," but that was the gist of it.

When Russia started its SMO, on Thursday, February 24, 2022, a guy went out into the streets, asking people the question, "Where is Ukraine?" One woman responded, "Isn't that in Texas?" Case closed. We are F*CKED!!! Here is a Substack article I wrote, entitled, "Where is Ukraine? Is American Ignorance Responsible for the loss of Ukrainian lives?"

https://ronchism.substack.com/p/where-is-ukraine-is-american-ignorance?utm_source=publication-search

Worse YET, we have people of two religions--Judaism [not all of them, of course] and Christianity [ditto] that believe that their respective Messiah's are gonna arrive. And to PAVE THE WAY for them, it is incumbant upon them, as they see it, to EMPTY not only Palestinians, but ALL ARABSI from "Israel." The Evangelical Christian Zionists say that this MUST happen, otherwise "Jesus Christ" won't be HAPPY ENOUGH, I guess, to return.

What we have is the BELOW-AVERAGE quality of Americans. And, partly because of that, we're literally faced with the possible elimination of all life on the planet, plant, insect, animal, and human.

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Nakayama's avatar

The Jewish people read their Bibles wrong, as the ancient prophecy foresees the Jews abusing other people to invite retaliation eventually. Yet they read it as if they have to abuse others to get punished, then the Messiah will come early. But the Christian Zionists are worse. Not only do they misread their own Bibles, but they also act along with the Jews to fulfill a prophecy the wrong way, rather than avoiding the sin. I always lament that for all the science and technology we have, eventually we will all perish because of somebody else's religion.

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Ron Chism's avatar

I'm Muslim. But, I have to inform you that there are people of THREE, not two, religions that are hoping for a warrior Messiah who will appear to force their religion on others:

Judaism

Christianity

Islam

Yes, people of MY religion, Islam, believe the following: Isa (Jesus) will physically return to this earth, accompanied by someone named Imam Mahdi. Either one, or both of them, will descend, from "Heaven," being carried down on the wings of two angels. They will float down and land on a minaret that is located somewhere east of Damascus, Syria.

It will be the job of Isa (Jesus), accompanied by his deputy, Imam Mahdi, to FORCE Islam, on this earth, as the only religion on the planet. Yeah, you heard it: Jesus, the founder of CHRISTIANITY, is coming back to force ISLAM on, as we would say in my old hood, "eebody and dey MAMMA."

And that "Last Days" scenario is held by the majority of the Muslim world. I, though, who accepts the interpretation explained by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, do not believe in such nonsense. All such prophecies are symbolic, not literal. But, I will not preach about the Ahmadiyya interpretation of those prophecies. If you're interested, you can go to alislam.org and hunt around. At 74 years of age, my days of preaching have long ago come to a screetching halt.

Anyway, you're RIGHT!!! Because of the INSANE Messianic eshatological beliefs of three religions, at any nano-second, all life on earth--plant, insect, animal, and human--can be wiped out.

So, what am I to say to an atheist, who proclaims, "Religion is the most dangerous force on earth"? I can't say SHIT!!! Oh, I can say, "No, see, you have to understand..." yada, yada, yada. But what will HE come back with? He'll say, "All that SOUNDS good. But what I see, right before my eyes, is THREE religions, all of which are HOPING that we all KILL each other--so that their Messiah can come."

I wish I could say that you're wrong. But, I can't. You're RIGHT!! We may all "perish because of somebody else's religion." That statement of yours is no exaggeration, brother.

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Nakayama's avatar

Which version of the English translation of the Qur'an would you recommend to someone who studied engineering and is interested only in the philosophies of religions, but not the church (or mosque, or temple, or synagogue)

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Ron Chism's avatar

Before recommending versions of Qur'an, I recommend something else first. My first recommendation might seem funny. I would recommend that you FIRST get hold of the Encyclopedia Brittanica and read the section on Islam.

I accepted Islam in 1975, through a friend. But, after that, I was surprised to discover that there were many Americans who, after reading the section on Islam in Encylopedia Brittanica, accepted Islam. So, BEWARE!! 😊 I'm assuming that Brittanica still carries an objective approach to the study of Islam.

Seriously, check out Britannica. I don't really know about now, but when I read that section, back in the 1970s, it was really good.

Another suggestion--and maybe you might do this first--is that you read a book on the life of Muhammad. That's very important. Because, you'll see the social context within which Muhammad received the Revelation of Qur'an from Allah (God). Here is one I recommend, in .pdf format, so that you can read it, for free, online:

https://files.alislam.cloud/pdf/Life-of-Muhammad.pdf

Note, in the CONTENTS section, you'll see the various subjects, pertaining to the life of Muhammad, that are covered in the book. You'll quickly see the social context within which Islam began.

As regards Qur'an, I'll give you links to two Qur'ans, one called "Tafsir Saghir," meaning "short commentary." It contains the Qur'an in Arabic, with English translation next to each verse, and commentary on every verse. When you get there, you'll have to cursor down a bit if you want to immediatly start reading the verses. So that you'll know where the first chapter is, The first Chapter is called Al-Fatiha, which is just 7 verses.

https://new.alislam.org/library/books/quran-english-short-commentary?option=toc&page=1

That version of Qur'an is 2,033 pages, including front and back matter. Don't feel intimidated. The Qur'an itself is not that long. The 2,033 page length is due to helpful supporting material, extensive indexing, etc. That stuff will be very helpful if you want to go very deep.

But if you REALLY want to go deeper, then you can go here:

https://new.alislam.org/library/books/quran-english-five-volume-1?option=toc&page=1

That version is called "Tafsir Kabir," which means, "Large Commentary." It is 3,596 pages, which includes front and back matter. Almost every verse has extensive commentary, so you can go into much depth.

Now to be straight with you. Those versions of Qur'an were both written by and published by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. Our community is considered "heretical" by the majority Sunni Muslim community, due to the claims of its founder, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908). I won't talk about that. To read everthing about him and his claims, you can easily find that at Ahmadiyyat's online website at alislam.org.

Now, the standard English-language Qur'an, with commentary on each verse, used by the MAJORITY of the English-speaking world is the Qur'an translated by Yusuf Ali.

https://archive.org/details/quran-english-translation-and-commentary-by-yusuf-ali/mode/2up

Well, I hope I haven't loaded you up too much. 😊

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Violinmaven's avatar

Botta-Bing!!!🙂

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Ron Chism's avatar

Believe it or not, "Botta-Bing" is one of my favorite expressions!! 👊😊

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In his Tucker Carlson interview last week, Jeffrey Sachs used terminology that seems to very well reflect what OUR WORTHLESS MEDIA IS SAYING BY LYING ABOUT THIS: “A NARRATIVE”. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE HEARING-A NARRATIVE-in other words-BIG, FAT LIES!!! I’m so sick of RATTY RATCLIFFE AND ALL THE REST FAWNING OVER DJT and all of the rest of the SYCOPHANTS!! Their choruses of, “all thanks to you, Mr President. Or, “We owe this all to you, Mr President” sounds like they’re giving praise to the most high god “!!! (Little g intended) which is just their completely SICKENING IDOL WORSHIP!!! I remind DJT of what the Lord God does to idols. HE DESTROYS THEM!!! “Thou shalt not trust in the arm of flesh”! Or in thy missiles or in thine armies!!! We are in for a terrible ride of this goes forward. If you have not read the book “One Second After” You Need to read it NOW. If you have not seen the movie “THREADS” you need to watch it now. Get prepared!! Forewarned is forearmed! “If thou art prepared, thou shalt not fear.” I used to think the

Anti-Christ was a young person-but no more. I now believe DJT is him.😡🤬😡

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Ron Chism's avatar

Your replay caused me to share something that I HOPE is not interpreted as my tryna "convert" anyone. I'm 74 f*cking years old, and my days of tryna "convert" anyone ended a few decades ago. So, bear with me.

Prophet Muhammad spoke of the coming of an "End-Time" beast called "The Dajaa." He said that that beast would have one eye of sight and one blind eye. The blind eye would be the eye of spirituality. They eye of sight would be the materialistic eye.

You may have heard that ONE reason that Trump supposedly postponed the alleged attack on Iran that he was going to do was that he didn't want to ruin THE MARKETS. I mean, DAMN!! Think of it!! It's as if "The Markets" is the name of a CHURCH or a RELIGION!! Trump, in my opinion, is now the "official" head of The Dajaal.

I am a patriot of the United States of America. But I'm NOT a damned fool. So, I CANNOT be sold on bullsh*t allusions to "patriotism," when I KNOW that we have a STANKY section of our society called OLIGARCHS. Their ONLY concenrs are,

1. Power

2. Control

3. Wealth

We are now witnessing the manifestation of the arrive of The Dajaal. The Soviet Union was PART of The Dajaal, as was [and still is] capitalist U.S.A. and capitalist [though DYING] Europe. We don't even HAVE to talk about religion or spirituality. Damn, how about just BASIC DECENCY. How about, even, COMMON SENSE. But, see, that BLIND EYE of The Dajaal cannot see decency, common sense. It only sees material things, and at the expense of the SOUL (which The Dajaal doesn't believe in).

Well, sorry [No I ain't] for the rant. Again: NOT tryna preach. Christianity has an understanding of an "end-time" figure. They call it The AntiChrist. AntiChrist, Dajaal...Take your pick.

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MESSAGE TO IRANIANS: Sorry to say this [No I'm not], but UNLESS you fully realize that Euros in Europe, their descendants in the U.S., and Ashkenazi Euro Zionist Jews DO NOT accept anything less than that all non-Euros either DIE or be SLAVES, then you are going to fall to a dangerous compromise. Euros DO NOT compromise. They STALL. Cease fires, negotiations, compromises, "peace" talks are nothing but tools of STALLING until they can get (and KEEP, if they can) supremacy over all non-Euros. Never, ever, EVER forget this Native American Saying: "White man speak with fork tongue." If you don't like the racial reference, try this: "American government speak with fork tongue."

And if they can't KILL non-Euros, then they'll be satisfied if you start naming your children SNOOP-DOG Shafiq, Aisha LIZZO Sharif, or DIDDY Muhammad. UNDERSTAND??? They will be satisfied ONLY when they've made CARICATURES of your people, as they've done to too many of MY people, Black people. Diddy could (and DID) get a direct invitation to the White House, before any INTELLIGENT Black person can. They see everyone other then themselves as LESS THAN.

So, keep your pride and your strength. Because, if you DON'T you and your country will soon become DIDDY-IZED!!!!!!!!! Oh, and if you don't know who Lizzo is, she's the "entertainer" who once had the entertainers that work with her stick bananas in their.......private part, and have other members EAT THEM. In HER case [to show you how DEEP the brainwashing can be] she is an accomplished classical violinist. So, sometimes, even if the people that Euros conquered become excellent in a high-level field, they can ALSO become SELF-DEMEANING examples of what happens when a people are conquered and controlled. To Iran I say, simply, FIGHT!!!!!!!!

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